My motor choice went up in smoke

Recap: A plan that hang-fired

I briefly covered my initial motor choice in the ‘Rocket Design‘ blog post. For my rocket, GLYPO-001, I required a G-class motor that I could fly at my ‘local’ club FOG, and a more powerful H-class, that I would fly elsewhere in the UK with a UKRA (UK Rocketry Association) certified RSO (Range Safety Officer).

I was not looking for altitude, I was looking for a nice dramatic slow launch. The Cesaroni AP (Ammonium Perchlorate) motors seemed ideal, they have some long burn grains that I hoped would deliver the right stuff. By way of comparison, the Cesaroni Pro29 G-class motors (80-160 N-s) with 3-grain refills have an average burn duration of 1.8 seconds across the range. They offer high velocity (Vmax) grains that burn as quickly as 0.4 seconds, all the way to very slow burn motors that last 4.4 seconds (Mellow).

I had selected, for my G-class, the ‘Red Lightning’ that burns for 3.0 seconds and the H-class ‘White Longburn’ that burns for 3.1 seconds. The Mellow was a little too mellow, and wouldn’t give my rocket enough speed off the launch rail to ensure aerodynamic stability.

Video: A much larger, 98 mm, Red Lightning test fire from Cesaroni’s YouTube

Falling short: What I didn’t take into account

That all seemed pretty reasonable at the time of my conceptual design in OpenRocket. Except a fundamental oversight on my part, it’s bloody difficult to get Cesaroni motors here in the UK! In my defence, I thought it would be easier. Rockets and Things appears to be the the go-to place for Cesaroni, but they didn’t have what I needed in stock. I had used ModelRockets.co.uk for several purchases of Estes kits and black powder motors, but they hold a far smaller stock of Cesaroni parts, and a prompt helpful message from them suggested that may not change any time soon.

The only place I can find with stock is a Dutch company, Euro Space Technology, for which I feel less confident in relying on overseas transport. This left me with a problem. I have built a majority of of my rocket at this point. Here it stands in it’s half painted form:

The fin assembly, which is built around a 29 mm diameter phenolic motor tube, is firmly glued into the body tube. This provides a clear constraint for any replacement motor, it must be 29 mm. I am left with a dilemma, do I try to order some Cesaroni motors from mainland Europe (and risk misunderstanding the ramifications of importing ammonium perchlorate into the UK), or do I change course?

Change in Direction: Now pointing upwards

This was a pretty easy decision. I don’t feel comfortable importing anything propellant related into the UK, therefore I’ve explored my options and there seems to be a clear winner. You may have read in my BOM post that I used Wizard Rockets to source the nose cone. My experience was really positive and they just happen to import AeroTech motors, which I understand to be the main competition to Cesaroni.

Images: AeroTech Website – Washers, o-rings… a lot of parts to squeeze into the casing (bottom-right).

It’s fair to say that the AeroTech motors are not as intuitive as the Cesaroni. As I pen this, I’m still not certain I have fully grasped their system. However, Wizard’s owners, Stuart & Naomi, are excellent communicators and I’m certainly much clearer. The fact they have stock, they are so helpful, they offer guidance in assembly of the motors, and they attend most model rocketry events in the UK, all inspires a lot of confidence. AeroTech is now the clear motor choice because of Wizard Rocket’s great support.

Performance: Not yet having a blast

Having browsed through the Wizard Rocket’s website I identified three motors:

  1. G75J-10A 29/180 RMS-PLUS
  2. H128W-14A 29/180 RMS-PLUS
  3. H238T-14A 29/180 RMS-PLUS

These would all fit inside the RMS-29/180 Full Motor casing, straddling both G-class and H-class impulse. From the AeroTech Master Motor Matrix (Updated 2nd April 2023), I am able to establish the following information:

DesignationTotal Impulse, N-sAverage Thrust, NPeak Thrust, NThrust Duration, sPropellant
G75J-10A135.675.070.32.40Black Jack
H128W-14A172.9128.0168.71.30White Lightning
H238T-14A165.5238.0263.40.70Blue Thunder

Straight away I can discount the H238 on personal preference. A 0.7 second motor burn would surely allow for a fast launch, but I feel the slower burns are more dramatic, thus to my taste. At 1.3 seconds, the H128 is still longer than I would prefer, but it’s much closer to my ideal. It’s not clear how the G75 could possibly have a higher peak-thrust than average thrust. Surely, an error on their part.

Now I’m down to two motors, I can compare the above motor matrix data with the data given on the product pages, and there are yet more inconsistencies (get your act together, AeroTech!). From the AeroTech product pages of the G75J-10A and H128W-14A, the following can be seen:

DesignationTotal Impulse, N-sAverage Thrust, NPeak Thrust, NThrust Duration, sPropellant
G75J-10A155(Not given)762.0Black Jack
H128W-14A175(Not given)1511.4White Lightning

There are differences in every field. This level of inconsistency is infuriating, especially for an already unintuitive motor system. I have more faith that the product pages are correct as they also provide a thrust profile that appears to align with the stated specifications.

Out of the frying pan, into the flame trench

The pain is not quite over yet! A further issue occurs in that OpenRocket lists two AeroTech motors with a designation G75J and two marked H128W, and in both cases neither seem to match the above stats nor the thrust profile. Consequently, I had to digitise the thrust profile (interestingly provided by AeroTech in pounds-force, despite their own motor designations in Newtons, perhaps because AeroTech appear utterly adverse to consistency), here is the H128W in the process of being digitised:

Engauge is an excellent graph digitiser, from this I created CSV files, converted from lbs-f to N, and translated into the RASP File Format (.eng) that OpenRocket readily accepts. The integrated values from these profiles, as seen once loaded in OpenRocket, are a much closer match than the built-in profiles:

In the extreme improbability that a reader has both reached this far in this rambling blog post and also needs these thrust curves for OpenRocket, I gladly include them here (note: these are just ASCII text files, open in Notepad or your favourite text editor):

All Fired Up: Finally, onto the simulation

Now that I’ve at last narrowed the selection and acquired what I sincerely hope is the correct data, I can finally run the OpenRocket simulations and compare the new motor selection (AeroTech) against the old (Cesaroni):

BrandCesaroni
(Old)
AeroTech
(New)
Cesaroni
(Old)
AeroTech
(New)
Motor NameG54 Red Lightning G75 Black JackH54 White LongburnH128 White Lightning
Motor ClassG GH H
Impulse (N-s)159155168175
Average Thrust (N)53.37553.6128
Max Thrust (N)12276103151
Burn Time (s)2.992.03.131.4
Apogee (m)
(ft)
485
1,591
350
1,148
508
1,667
498
1,634
Velocity off-rail (m/s)
(1m rail)
14.416.712.714.6
Stability (cal)2.412.252.362.33
Thrust to weight5.10:15.93:15.08:111.54:1
Max Velocity (m/s)101
(M 0.30)
90.8
(M 0.27)
104
(M 0.31)
131
(M 0.39)
Max Acceleration (m/s/s)104
(10.6 G)
53.8
(5.5 G)
80.9
(8.2 G)
129
(13.2 G)

The motor choices are certainly acceptable. Comparing back to that first blog posts with the requirements for thrust-to-weight and velocity off-rail, the AeroTech motors are better on both counts because they are both faster burning than their counterparts. This is less favourable for my preference for a slow burn, but good for stability.

H128W with a 1 m/s wind

Conclusion: Mission Accomplished?

I’m sad to be losing some burn time, and mildly infuriated with the impenetrable complexity of the AeroTech system, but ultimately I have hope this is the right choice. The AeroTech motors have great availability and support in the UK because of Wizard Rockets, and thus availability and support triumphs desired performance and simplicity.


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